Curse

fatelord · Mar 08, 2009, 12:10 PM // 12:10

[drunken master]
[spear of fury]
[cruel spear]
[blazing spear]
[watch yourself] or [save yourselves]
[to the limit]
[there's nothing to fear]
[signet of return]

Spear 14
leadership 10
tactics 8

how viable is this build? any suggestions other than aggressive refrain :P.

Cebe · Mar 08, 2009, 12:23 PM // 12:23

If you're going to try to keep "Save Yourselves!" (and, to an extent, "Watch Yourself!") up as much as possible you are going to need a more sustained increase in adrenaline gain. Skills such as [["For Great Justice!" (PvE)], or [[Focused Anger] both work well, or using an orders hero carrying [[Dark Fury]. "To The Limit!" isn't going to cut it after the first spike of adrenaline gain you receive from it.

It's good to see you got deep wound in there, but you could consider using Focused Anger instead, since you can get your deep wound from non elites including [[Merciless Spear] and [[Vicious Attack].

FoxBat · Mar 08, 2009, 02:30 PM // 14:30

Well, there's a huuuge difference between SY and WY here. Taking an adrenaline elite just for WY would be silly when it's so easy to upkeep. Of course I don't know why you'd run WY over SY in a PvE build, even if you didn't have super adren gain, 100 armor up half the time is still super broken.

miskav · Mar 08, 2009, 03:55 PM // 15:55

I'm perplexed why you're Comparing [Watch yourself!] with [Save yourselves!] o.O...
SY > WY

fatelord · Mar 08, 2009, 04:00 PM // 16:00

Because If u noticed my bar ..I got 3 PVE skills already ...and i was contemplating adding Ebon battle standard of honor ....

If I am to add [save yourselves] then i will have to add focused anger ..and then it is th etypical imbagon bar ..

fatelord · Mar 08, 2009, 04:20 PM // 16:20

Because of the limitation on the number of PVE skills ...and because I didn't want focused anger ...

TheodenKing · Mar 08, 2009, 04:27 PM // 16:27

Choose one adrenal skill and keep it up. If you like [cruel spear], then abandon your dreams of keeping [save yourselves] up. Instead, use your IAS and adrenaline gain to use your elite more often.

Eragon Zarroc · Mar 08, 2009, 06:33 PM // 18:33

if u want imbagon, ur not gona have much dmg. if u want dmg, it s gonna be neigh impossible to do imba. u can have one or te other. if u try to split between the two, ur gonna have mediocre dmg and defense instead of really good attack or really good defense.

Snow Bunny · Mar 08, 2009, 06:49 PM // 18:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eragon Zarroc

if u want imbagon, ur not gona have much dmg. if u want dmg, it s gonna be neigh impossible to do imba. u can have one or te other. if u try to split between the two, ur gonna have mediocre dmg and defense instead of really good attack or really good defense.

What are you talking about? Imbagons have fairly high damage.

Take [sy!] and [tntf!] and [ebsoh]

fatelord · Mar 08, 2009, 06:57 PM // 18:57

Indeed imbagons damage is very good ..still i am here going for a [cruel spear] build ..

How about throwing a conjure in there ? I don't see conjure paras almost at all ...while they are very popular with warriors, rangers and somewhat dervs..

MisterB · Mar 08, 2009, 07:21 PM // 19:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by fatelord

Indeed imbagons damage is very good ..still i am here going for a [cruel spear] build ..

How about throwing a conjure in there ? I don't see conjure paras almost at all ...while they are very popular with warriors, rangers and somewhat dervs..

Well, you'll need a 4 attribute split to run a Conjure if you want your shield. Also, [[Ebon Battle Standard of Honor] exists. Bonus damage that can't be stripped, and doesn't require attribute points. But you knew that already.

MasterSasori · Mar 09, 2009, 07:01 PM // 19:01

I use Conjure Air (for fun, its not nearly as good as Imba) when I'm not running Imbagon and you don't need a high spec for it to be effective. However, the main problem is that it takes up a slot which on an Imbagon, is in high demand, not to mention splitting atts. BTW, can't be P/W/E

EBSoH is far too good to pass up. As far as I'm concerned, it should be staple to the Imbagon bar. However, that means no Druken Master and a Paragon must have IAS for it to be effective.

I used to run SoR, but with IAS, WY should be up almost all the time anyway and would the extra adrenaline would be wasted. Same with "To the Limit." This would be a different story with SY, but then again, you only have enough room for 3 PvE skills.

My suggestion is to find a way to include EBSoH and drop Signet of Resurrection. Let the heroes worry about rezzing.